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UPDATED: Tabke Joins R.T. Rybak, Chris Coleman in Transit Tax Proposal Press Conference

Shakopee Mayor Brad Tabke spoke about Gov. Dayton's tax proposal during a press conference Tuesday.

 
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Updated: Feb. 27, 4:30 p.m.:

Shakopee mayor Brad Tabke spoke Tuesday morning at a press conference in favor of Gov. Dayton's transit tax proposal.

Tabke was joined at the press conference by Minneapolis mayor R.T. Rybak and St. Paul mayor Chris Coleman. (His comments begin at the 4:36 mark in the YouTube video above. The Vimeo video was posted on his blog.)

Our situation is unique in the metro that we have a physical barrier—we have a river—and there're only so many lanes we can get along the river," he said. "We need to have transit options for our residents, for our commuters, so we can continue to invest in bridges and roads and those types of things but have options."

Original story, Feb. 27, 6 a.m:

The Shakopee Council voted 4-1 last week in a show of support for Gov. Mark Dayton's quarter-cent sales tax proposal that would raise $200 million a year for light rail and bus lines.

"A funded, comprehensive transit solution is vital to the future of Shakopee, Scott County, and the Greater MSP Region to maintain job growth, attract young talent, and move goods and services along the 169 corridor," Shakopee Mayor Brad Tabke wrote on his blog.

City council member Matt Lehman cast the lone dissenting vote and said he prefers local transit authorities levy their own taxes, according to the Shakopee Valley News.

"In the past, we’ve discussed how our current transit dollars are shrinking and being allocated to other areas - mostly the inner city and light rail and some other things by the Met Council," Lehman told the paper. "I have a hard time understanding how we don’t think the same thing would happen with this money."

Tabke has more on the issue on his blog:

As local units of government, and as a region, we need bold action on transit. The transit sales tax proposal is that bold step and reflects a commitment to long term investment in a connected, integrated and prosperous region. We need to make this happen.

I am very proud that Shakopee City Council supports the Governor’s .25 cent sales tax dedicated to building out the transit system. While the details of who will levy the tax and how it will be utilized are yet to be sorted out, I am excited to work as part of our region crafting a solution for the future of transit.

[On Tuesday, I joined] mayors from across the Greater MSP region at a press conference at the Capitol supporting transit and the Governor’s .25 cent sales tax.

Please join the conversation by commenting below and talking with your MN Legislators, Scott County Commissioners and Shakopee City Council.

Thank you and have a great day!

Brad

Resources:

Shakopee Council Supports Transit Tax – Shakopee Valley News

The Itasca Project – Private sector-led study on ROI of building out a Greater MSP transit system. $6-10 billion ROI.

Metro Cities Update on Transit

Transportation for a New Generation - 2011 Study showing youth are migrating toward areas of better transit

Dayton Offers Game-Changing Transit Plan - MinnPost

Related Topics: Brad Tabke, Mark Dayton, Sales Tax, Transit, and shakopee mayor

Rick Halver

8:35 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Here we go again, just another tax increase that will vanish into thin air, enough aiready.

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Big_Phish

8:57 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

See Shakopee, this is what you get when you elect a Prom King and not a leader. Invest in building bigger roads, not a Government subsidized, sorry, Tax Payers Money subsidized transit system. Major Tabke, pull your head out and look around. We, Tax Payers, can't keep taking these kinds of hits. Your desirer to move up politically, does not mean you have to be someones lap dog.

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Maggie

9:04 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Oh my gosh I agree with the comments, enough is enough! Stop this taxing! I can attest to most people I know in Shakopee agree with the others commenting as well! Stop and just MAINTAIN the city rather than try and create a whole new world. We are tapped out as it is, STOP ADDING To OUR TAX BURDENS! Sheesh. This Tabke may be a nice guy, but his head is WAYYYY to big.

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Brad Tabke

10:54 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Hi Maggie -

You make an extremely clear point about maintaining our city. I firmly believe that transit is critical to simply maintaining Shakopee over the next decade.

If we are not active and connected in a comprehensive transit system, we will be unable to maintain our city. The state will not be able to keep enough lanes on 169/101/41 to handle Scott County's growth. We are a great place to be and people want to live and work here. However, we must have options for people to get across the river to work on American Blvd, Bren Rd, Excelsior Blvd, St Paul, and make connections to the rest of the system.

We need to increase our options and get commuters and people who are able to utilize a transit system off of the roads and open them up for businesses to use.

I'll ask you this, how much will it cost you if we cease to be able to bring new jobs and new residents to Shakopee? Scott County was ranked 18th in the nation for economic expansion by the Business Journals. Do you think we can maintain that job creation under transportation gridlock? What does that mean for our community?

Brad

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Big_Phish

2:40 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I work on Excelsior and it would take me a good hour or so to get to work, where I take a 20 to 30 minute drive and I'm there. Please, you all act like time is not an issue. Minneapolis is an example of what not to do with your Highway design and Public Transit systems. The highway system, especially the bridge out of Shakopee on 169, is a glaring example of short sited designs. But no, you say public transit is the way to go. Everything is hub to hub, what a waste. We even had a chance to fix that and do what Chicago did and build a rail system in the middle of the Highway. People do not want to spend 2/3/4 hours getting to and from work. So, 4 out of 5 council members support this regional transit thing. Maybe Shakopee needs to clean house on the next election. Maggie for Mayor. To you Mayor Tabke, I do apologize for saying Major Tabke it was a typo, don't stiffle Shakopees growth by thinking Transit is the way to get more businesses in town. Build bigger roads, think of the future and what we can be. Commuters do not need to stop using the roads, we paid to build them. So, build with future use in mind and be more responsible with the money, tax money, our money that you spend. The last paragraph is so rediculous I don't even know where to start. Shakopee has been ranked 18th without transit. Transit systems do nothing for attracting business, highway access, roads do. I don't see a lot of businesses built on Transit lines, I see a ton on highways.

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Heyitsme

4:50 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Ranked 18th using what year's data?

Maggie

11:25 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I politely disagree. We have cars and buses that already do the job and if we do not have the money we simply do not have the money. It's that easy. There are so many other things to take in consideration the last of our problems is the "future" of transit and getting to and fro. People don't ride trains and buses like they do cars. If you need to get somewhere get in your car and go. There are plenty more things to address than some "future" transportation issues. My immediate issues are paying my bills, trying to save for MY future and my children's and the cost of gas, health bills, etc. You can spout out numbers all you want out of some journal but I don't work in "Bloomington" or on "Excelsior Blvd". I live in Shakopee, my kids go to school in Shakopee and I choose to work in Chaska. My husband works in Minneapolis and has no problem getting there in his car. Not a problem for me or the majority of others. If you want to work in St. Paul and have a problem go live there or drive a car or take a bus like others do. Seriously no reason to panic over "future growth blah blah". Let me reiterate what I said before. If we DON'T have the money DON'T spend it. I could go on this all day. You want me to address a real issue I will, this isn't one of them, yet. Which it unfortunately probably will thanks to Dayton and the way he spends our money. Now is not the time for this. Mayor-did you ask your citizens before going forward representing our city?

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Brad Tabke

11:39 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Got it. Yes, I talk to A LOT of people and hear a lot of opinions. Though it may not seem like it on the newspaper comments sections, the vast majority of residents and businesses I talk to - along with 4 out of 5 Shakopee council members - believe we need to be part of a regional transit solution.

Maggie

11:27 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Also-I understand 25 cents doesn't seem like much, but where does it end? It's only the beginning.

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Maggie

11:34 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I also understand it is pointless for me to even give my opinion since there is nothing little ol me can do or say and the Mayor, Governor, Congress, Senator whoever will do what they want anyway. With all that said you can only hope for the best and be happy anyways. Thank you for your explanation Mayor, I respect that you wrote directly to me, as a citizen of Shakopee, took the time to actually respond is not something you see to often these days.

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Brad Tabke

11:59 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I'm always open to talking. We will not - and should not - always agree, but I'm open to conversations. www.bradtabke.com | www.facebook.com/mayortabke | www.twitter.com/mayortabke

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Heyitsme

4:49 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Amen Maggie, you're right .. they are going to do what they want anyhow.

Uriah Norris

11:36 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Brad - Please take note of a better idea to handle city growth. Rio de Janeiro's mayor has a much better and cheaper solution to handle their traffic now, and with the upcoming need to host the next Olympic games. I refer you to this video for more details - Eduardo Paes: The 4 commandments of cities http://www.ted.com/talks/eduardo_paes_the_4_commandments_of_cities.html
Go to time stamp 4:15 for the specific relevance to this topic. Or watch the whole thing for general knowledge sake.

Cheaper, more scalable and able to go where the need is. All the things Light Rail cannot do. Please do not support an option that just soaks the public further.

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Brad Tabke

11:57 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Uriah - Ted talks are the best and I love that one!! You will be happy to know that BRT is EXACTLY what we are talking about. The .25 cent transit tax will support 17 new BRT lines in Greater MSP (12 arterial ex: American Blvd and 5 highway ex: 169 & 212). (12 arterial like American Blvd and 5 highway like 169 & 212) http://www.metrocouncil.org/newsletter/transit2012/MetroSalesTaxProposalJan2013.htm

Jerry Schmidt

12:12 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

That's what we need , more taxes to support another boondoggle which will continue to lose money, which will continue to need MORE taxes to exist. When will you idiots learn that this is not going to save money. It only serves to line the pockets of politicians, lobbyists, and continues to make voters look like fools for electing these leeches as our so-called leaders. what a joke......

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Uriah Norris

2:00 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Brad - I see that the link you provided partly does that, but this line worries me:

Full funding for Southwest light rail capital and operating expenses

Why is Light Rail something being discussed? I don't understand why you guys are supporting something that is so very obviously a bad idea.

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Mary King

2:32 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I'm not a super political person, but I agree with the Mayor on this one.
I for one, am in favor of paying a little more in taxes to improve our transit system. I rely on the transit system to get to and from work everyday. I do not want to drive to Minneapolis everyday. I know a lot of others from Shakopee ride the bus as well. Some days we have over 55 people on the bus for the ride home. That's 55 less cars on 169 for the rush to the cities. Bus ridership is growing and we need to be able to handle the growth. The only time I jump in my car & go, is when I need to go to Cub. :)

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Big_Phish

3:09 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Let the transit riders pay for that convenience then, not me. People choose to take public transit and I choose to not ride it and I get penalized. Besides I pay for enough taxes already. Rider fees should go up, not my taxes to feed another tax subsidized program. If Public Transportion is so great, why is it subsidized?

Heyitsme

4:45 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Well hooray for Mary and not wanting to drive and working downtown. Many of us that would ride a bus but can't is because we don't work in Minneapolis. Minnesota short sights every design, we have a $500,000 fix on the brand spanking new Highway 13 flyover. While hooray and pats on the back for FINALLY fixing 169/494 interchange (which should have been designed correctly from the get go)...there is still an issue. 169 is a double ended funnel between 494 and the Bloomington Ferry Bridge. Compounding the issue is the FACT (and I mean FACT) that 90% of the Minnesota drivers cannot merge, plan ahead or have common courtesy to other drivers, this causes the back ups that are still plaguing that part of 169. Another glaring example of poor road design...the 101 river crossing....great that we are finally going to get it but the designing of a roundabout taking out the Y intersection on the north side of the river is completely idiotic. We are stopped on First Avenue in the mornings because drivers cannot merge correctly; they cross solid white lines and always want to merge as soon as they get onto the bridge instead of driving down the length of the bridge and merging. Then traffic stops again at the left turn light because the lane is not wide enough to get by those turning. Taxing us for more buses is not the solution.

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matt lehman

11:01 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Heyitsme, I confess to being the person that actually designed the roundabout at the Y. I am not a fan of roundabouts however, in this location because the state owns the whole area, and the concept design had multiple turns and lights and bridges at seriously high costs, I came up with a modified roundabout with right bypasses. The professionals took my idea and changed it and did the traffic studies. Its saves money, works better then all the lights, bridges and controls, and because the size will be so large, it has the capacity. My starting concern was a 4 lane dumping into the existing Y and all I saw was 169 all over again..4 lanes without improvements at the Y would only move the problem a mile or so and the multiple bridge design makes a Y upgrade years out so, compromises are made. I will add the grade change up 101 makes a standard clover leaf not possible according to the professionals and space with the wetlands was another concern the expressed with a full blow cloverleaf.

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Heyitsme

1:43 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013

Matt, that is fine...but all of those roundabouts up at 494/169 are so confusing. Spend the extra money and put in a typical signaled intersection, not a roundabout that tractor trailers or pickup trucks can get through. Nobody asked for a cloverleaf. Take out that parking lot and have all the traffic route over to the 101 intersection and make it double lanes both ways would have been the best solution. Having a politician design the road wasn't the best designer, it should have been a road designer (not from Minnesota because every single one of those shortsight every design). The other option should have been widening the right lane NB where driver turn right to go into Chaska or stay on 101, that would have solved much of the back up being able to get around the turning traffic.

Heyitsme

4:47 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

And Mr. Mayor -- you talked to people? There wasn't even a call out for to the community for their comments. What has happened to your consistent barrage of information and this wasn't even mentioned?

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Brad Tabke

5:13 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Yes, I have talked to a lot of residents and businesses. Sorry you missed the conversation. I was requesting comments on twitter and facebook after the StarTribune article a few weeks ago and a fair amount of feedback. As well, we discussed it at the Feb 19 city council meeting.

I didn't realize my consistent barrage of information had subsided. What more would you like? How do you like to consume the information?

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Heyitsme

1:46 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013

There you go again assuming the majority of your constituents are Twitter or Facebook savvy and pay for subscriptions to the Star Tribune and Shakopee Valley News. Yeah serving your people, got to be part of the clique.

Jerry Schmidt

7:57 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

If these projects, and their false analysis were truly exposed to the taxpayer, they would not be so easily sucked in to another taxpayer gouging redisributionist attempt at people control. read agenda 21

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matt lehman

11:14 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Just a clarification, the article says .25 cent sales tax. Its actually a 1/4 percent sales tax increase from 6.875 to 7.125 and I suspect if the sales tax is expanded to services, so goes this additional 1/4 percent along with any other additional itemized increase besides transportation. I expect another 1/4 percent for a grand total of 7.375 or 7.5% sales tax on goods and services. Growing the economy on the backs of taxpayers.

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Big_Phish

8:57 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Mayor Tabke is just part of the disease that is going to wipe the middle class out. Part of a Socialist disease, that makes everyone the same. People will eventually feel good about their crappy apartments, food lines, gas lines and massive black markets. But, you will feel secure because that is what America wants right now. I know I am going a little far right now, but you have to take things to the end point. That end point is, in America you will have the rich and the poor and nothing in the middle. Come on Mayor Tabke tell me where I am wrong... tell that you are not a liberal... then prove it by telling what the plan for Shakopee is.

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Maggie

9:41 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Big_Phish---I couldn't agree with you more but why is it most people agree with us, it's really the consensus in my family, friends, work place, neighborhood, these forums...so what's going on??? It's sad, scary and so so frustrating. Middle class is probably the toughest as far as getting by. Cost of living is one of the biggest problems whether it be rent, buying an overpriced house in Shakopee, paying property taxes, income taxes, you name it. I guess we just keep treading water. It seems our voices are always left out. These guys have to stop running for office for their own benefit and try to think of what the fundamental reason is of having a public service position--it is intended to be a voice for the people, to oversee that things run smoothly (not corrupt)--that people aren't taken advantage of and that we can be safe, etc etc. Leave Shakopee the way it is, what's wrong with that? I can't afford any more of this.

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Big_Phish

11:30 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

There is a growing trend where people want security more then the want freedom. Politicians play on that very well.

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Big_Phish

11:37 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Oh my Gosh!! I just did the route planner from my home to work. It would take 1hour and 46 minutes. South Bridge to Minneapolis to Excelsior. Not a chance in Heck!!
Try it.
http://metrotransit.org/tripplanner/

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Mary King

12:47 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

It takes a little extra time to commute. I leave Shakopee at 6:03am and ride to Minneapolis. Then I walk to my second bus stop and wait 15 minutes, that bus takes me within one block of my job which starts at 7:30am. If the roads are ice & snow covered and the traffic is backed up, I simply get on the bus. Perhaps with a little more funding, you may one day be able to board a bus in Shakopee that will take you directly to Excelsior. I can tell you that for me, the commute is worth arriving at work and/or home stress free.

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Big_Phish

3:23 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Nothing is worth the extra time away from my family. It would feel like I am paying to stay away from them.

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Heyitsme

1:51 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013

Mary, so almost two hours one way is a little extra time? That is four hours a day (forgetting driving to the bus lot), 20 hours a week on a already 40 hour per week work schedule. Time that wouldn't be spent, if you drive yourself. Great that the rest of us are being asked to pay for your generosity in commuting.

Uriah Norris

12:38 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

I did the metro transit planner and it tells me a trip is not possible from my area of Shakopee near Home Depot to Minnetonka where I work. OH PLEASE PLEASE can I pay more taxes to fix this?

Give me a break. The ONLY reason I stay in Minnesota is because we have family near and we have 3 boys. Otherwise I would move to a less taxed state in a heart beat. We have no politicians at the local or state level that can actually think critically or long term without immediately going to the most expensive solution in the process.

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matt lehman

9:47 pm on Monday, March 4, 2013

169 needs another lane both directions crossing the river to 494 if not farther north. 101 should be 4 lanes all the way up the hill to 494 (Beard and Robling worked hard on that one). A future 2030 41 river crossing needs to be pushed up into the next 10 years. This crossing is suppose to tie in to the new 312. 169 and 41 would be the place for a mass transit site instead of 169/marshall but, that's past and done. If we as a state/county/city cant build a road system adequate for the population in over 100 years, where should I as a taxpayer be finding my confidence for government transit? 5 years I have been demanding our buses connect to Eden Prairie and Burnsville's systems, this should be a requirement under law that all public funded transit systems must be inter-connect or no funding. Now its, where taking your money now and MAY consider these things in 2018. 2016/2017 I bet they need more and more money to continue to meet the 2018 goals of inter connections. Oh, don't take me wrong, transit has a place but must be done correctly. $3.50 for a ride to mpls is to low, I cant ride my motorcycle to mpls for that.

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Heyitsme

4:00 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013

Call for the disbanding of the Met Council...plenty of money saved from doing so. The Met Council will take the 1/4 cent hike and spend it on the projects that benefit everyone else but the communities south of the Minnesota River. That has been proven time and time again. BUT NO....the new mayor believes by throwing in "Shakopee's" will of the people it will be different this time.

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